Nov. 11, 2008
Hi Nancy,
I always seem to get tongue-tied when I see you. How about that party for Ray? Ellen Steinberg and I decided that we, of the small state of Delaware, are simply the "us-iest." No one else has the same degree of us-ness that us has. Or we-ness, if you prefer. Anyhoo, I am vouching herein for my absolute favorite student of the year, maybe of the last two years, Ms. Briana Higgins. She just keeps surprising me with her work. I do wish she would talk more - maybe even dare to smile now and then. She is so damn serious about it all, but then, I understand why. Anyway, I don't know how your agency works in terms of interns, but we rarely send anyone to you and I think this young woman really deserves to go somewhere GREAT like, with you, or with one of your young proteges up north there. So let us know if it is feasible at all. And we STILL must make arrangements for you to come down to Delaware. Maybe in beach weather?Thanks for your time,
Ann Lemon
U of D
(us)
Nov. 11, 2008
Hi Ann---yeah that was some shindig. So glad I went. I know it was the highlight of Ray's career...at least I sure never saw him cry before. It was great to see you and to meet Ellen in person. That was a treat. I'd love to see your student's work. We do have internships although with the recent financial meltdown that may be interrupted, will have to see. In any case I always like seeing terrific talent. So encourage her to contact me.
I will hope to get down to DE one of these days. Yes the "us-ness" has
great appeal.
xoNancy
Hi Ann---yeah that was some shindig. So glad I went. I know it was the highlight of Ray's career...at least I sure never saw him cry before. It was great to see you and to meet Ellen in person. That was a treat. I'd love to see your student's work. We do have internships although with the recent financial meltdown that may be interrupted, will have to see. In any case I always like seeing terrific talent. So encourage her to contact me.
I will hope to get down to DE one of these days. Yes the "us-ness" has
great appeal.
xoNancy
Nov. 12, 2008
Dear Ms. Vonk,
I’ve wanted to work in advertising since I was ten years old when I realized that people actually make ads. I was watching an episode of Rugrats and the family dog, Spike, starred in a dog food commercial. Currently, I am a senior studying Visual Communications at your alma mater, the University of Delaware. Like you, I was lucky enough to stumble upon the great design program available here and as part of my education I am seeking out an internship. I would love to have the opportunity to discuss with you the possibility of fulfilling my internship at Ogilvy & Mather’s Toronto location. Our internships are conducted during the University’s Winter Session in the month of January. I would like to send you my portfolio but wanted to know if you would prefer a pdf or a physical version. Also, do you prefer to be contacted by phone or email?
Thank You,
Briana Higgins
Dear Ms. Vonk,
I’ve wanted to work in advertising since I was ten years old when I realized that people actually make ads. I was watching an episode of Rugrats and the family dog, Spike, starred in a dog food commercial. Currently, I am a senior studying Visual Communications at your alma mater, the University of Delaware. Like you, I was lucky enough to stumble upon the great design program available here and as part of my education I am seeking out an internship. I would love to have the opportunity to discuss with you the possibility of fulfilling my internship at Ogilvy & Mather’s Toronto location. Our internships are conducted during the University’s Winter Session in the month of January. I would like to send you my portfolio but wanted to know if you would prefer a pdf or a physical version. Also, do you prefer to be contacted by phone or email?
Thank You,
Briana Higgins
Nov. 14, 2008
Hi Briana---I'd love to see your work. You can send pdfs no problem. As for a January internship, we'd have to see how you might be able to cross the border. Would you have a place to stay for that month? Let's start with seeing your work and take it from there. If you prefer to send hard copy we're at 33 Yonge St., toronto ON, M5E 1X6. ---Nancy
Nov. 19, 2008
Nancy-
I attached a zip file of my portfolio and resume. I hope what you see is up to your standards for an internship. I would love to intern at Ogilvy Toronto because I want to be mentored by people who create work that I greatly admire. I understand the business objectives of clients seeking advertising and the role that it plays in the economy but I also believe that advertising can serve other purposes, and on occasion have a positive affect on society. Your work for Dove, Campaign for Real Beauty, is truly inspirational and an shining example of the good that advertising can do. It is rare to see advertisements that are uplifting and I would be so grateful for the chance to learn from people that combine two things that I love about advertising, a constructive message and wonderful use of interactivity. Thank you for considering me.
-Briana Higgins
I attached a zip file of my portfolio and resume. I hope what you see is up to your standards for an internship. I would love to intern at Ogilvy Toronto because I want to be mentored by people who create work that I greatly admire. I understand the business objectives of clients seeking advertising and the role that it plays in the economy but I also believe that advertising can serve other purposes, and on occasion have a positive affect on society. Your work for Dove, Campaign for Real Beauty, is truly inspirational and an shining example of the good that advertising can do. It is rare to see advertisements that are uplifting and I would be so grateful for the chance to learn from people that combine two things that I love about advertising, a constructive message and wonderful use of interactivity. Thank you for considering me.
-Briana Higgins
Dec. 2, 2008
Nancy-
I just wanted to send you a follow up email. Thank you for taking time to speak with me last week. I am thrilled about the possibility of coming to Toronto and having an amazing learning experience at Ogilvy as well as meeting you. I can’t believe that I might have the chance to intern at an agency that produces such great work. It really would be a dream come true. I’ve been speaking to my professors non-stop about it. Bill Deering wanted me to say hello for him.
-Briana Higgins
I just wanted to send you a follow up email. Thank you for taking time to speak with me last week. I am thrilled about the possibility of coming to Toronto and having an amazing learning experience at Ogilvy as well as meeting you. I can’t believe that I might have the chance to intern at an agency that produces such great work. It really would be a dream come true. I’ve been speaking to my professors non-stop about it. Bill Deering wanted me to say hello for him.
-Briana Higgins
Dec. 3, 2008
Hi there. I know you're eager to know if this is happening for the obvious reasons. I am checking on any issues with immigration as we decide if we'll bring you in as an exception. As I told you we don't do this kind of internship normally. It's because you're from UD that I'd consider it. Which is not to say we wouldn't appreciate your help. Hopefully I can give you an answer in the next few days. Sorry to keep you waiting. ---NancyDec. 3 2008
Hi Briana. Just heard back from our head of HR. It turns out even unpaid interns from abroad need a work permit to enter Canada. She suggested that you go onto the government of Canada's website to see what steps are required. We could provide a letter of an official offer of the internship (likely required). If you're up for going to the trouble to do this, we will be happy to host you for a month.
Lorie Manley will be happy to take your call or emails if you have questions after checking out what's needed through the government. Here's her email to me from earlier today:
Hey Nancy,
Here is what I received this morning from our immigration counsel regarding the question of the young lady coming to do a one month internship with us in Toronto from your alma mater:
First, the definition of "work" under the Immigration rules:
Examples of “work” include, but are not limited to:
• unpaid employment undertaken for the purpose of obtaining work experience, such as an internship or practicum normally done by a student. Seems this lady's situation fits this definition as an internship would require a work permit.
Secondly, he's suggested the following:
There are a number of programs out there which do allow for short term work permits for students and new graduates so she should explore that and if she can obtain one then she can do your internship. Perhaps she can look into this and let us know what she finds out???
Your thoughts?
Lorie
Lorie Manley will be happy to take your call or emails if you have questions after checking out what's needed through the government. Here's her email to me from earlier today:
Hey Nancy,
Here is what I received this morning from our immigration counsel regarding the question of the young lady coming to do a one month internship with us in Toronto from your alma mater:
First, the definition of "work" under the Immigration rules:
Examples of “work” include, but are not limited to:
• unpaid employment undertaken for the purpose of obtaining work experience, such as an internship or practicum normally done by a student. Seems this lady's situation fits this definition as an internship would require a work permit.
Secondly, he's suggested the following:
There are a number of programs out there which do allow for short term work permits for students and new graduates so she should explore that and if she can obtain one then she can do your internship. Perhaps she can look into this and let us know what she finds out???
Your thoughts?
Lorie
Dec 3, 2008
Nancy-
I am definitely up to the trouble of filling out the paperwork. I am truly ecstatic! Thank you for this amazing opportunity. I realize that it is a lot of effort on your part and the agency to take on an intern, especially someone like me who is not following the regular program. I deeply appreciate what you have done for me.
I've been looking through the information on the Canadian Government's website and it looks as if I need to fill out forms for an internship/co-op working permit. The site said processing takes around two weeks so I am trying to get the forms out hopefully tomorrow. I will definitely need a letter stating the internship offer so maybe someone can possibly send an attachment of some kind? Once again, thank you so much.
-Briana Higgins
I am definitely up to the trouble of filling out the paperwork. I am truly ecstatic! Thank you for this amazing opportunity. I realize that it is a lot of effort on your part and the agency to take on an intern, especially someone like me who is not following the regular program. I deeply appreciate what you have done for me.
I've been looking through the information on the Canadian Government's website and it looks as if I need to fill out forms for an internship/co-op working permit. The site said processing takes around two weeks so I am trying to get the forms out hopefully tomorrow. I will definitely need a letter stating the internship offer so maybe someone can possibly send an attachment of some kind? Once again, thank you so much.
-Briana Higgins
Dec. 3, 2008
Ms. Manley-
Hi, I'm Briana Higgins, the intern trying to come to Ogilvy for January. Nancy Vonk gave me your email so that I can contact you if I have any questions while I am trying to find out what kinda of immigration paperwork I need to fill out. I've been trying to figure out what I need to do from the Canadian Government's website and what I have gathered so far is that I don't need a Visa because I am a US citizen. I don't believe that I need to get a Study Permit because I found this:
"You do not need a study permit if you plan to take a course or program in Canada that lasts six months or less. You must complete the course or program within the period authorized for your stay in Canada."
I also found information on Co-op and internship programs that said:
"For some academic programs, work experience is part of the curriculum. Foreign students who wish to participate in a co-op or internship program must apply for a work permit as well as a study permit."
I'm assuming that I need to fill out the Co-op internship program forms and study permit forms? I tried contacting immigration offices and the Study Abroad Office of my school but neither was very much help. Is there someone that normally handles interns or foreign employees at Ogilvy? I found information on the normal processing time for these types of forms which is around two weeks so I'm trying to get everything figured out as soon as possible.
Thank You,
Briana Higgins
Hi, I'm Briana Higgins, the intern trying to come to Ogilvy for January. Nancy Vonk gave me your email so that I can contact you if I have any questions while I am trying to find out what kinda of immigration paperwork I need to fill out. I've been trying to figure out what I need to do from the Canadian Government's website and what I have gathered so far is that I don't need a Visa because I am a US citizen. I don't believe that I need to get a Study Permit because I found this:
"You do not need a study permit if you plan to take a course or program in Canada that lasts six months or less. You must complete the course or program within the period authorized for your stay in Canada."
I also found information on Co-op and internship programs that said:
"For some academic programs, work experience is part of the curriculum. Foreign students who wish to participate in a co-op or internship program must apply for a work permit as well as a study permit."
I'm assuming that I need to fill out the Co-op internship program forms and study permit forms? I tried contacting immigration offices and the Study Abroad Office of my school but neither was very much help. Is there someone that normally handles interns or foreign employees at Ogilvy? I found information on the normal processing time for these types of forms which is around two weeks so I'm trying to get everything figured out as soon as possible.
Thank You,
Briana Higgins
Dec. 3, 2008
Hi there. We are open Monday jan. 5 after the holidays. What are the exact dates of the internship so we can put that in the letter?Dec. 3, 2008
The dates of the internship would be from Jan. 5th - Feb. 6th.-Briana
Dec. 5 2008
Hi Briana---I've written a letter (attached) and thought you should read it and let me know if in your understanding of what immigration needs, it has covered the bases. We'll get this on letterhead and emailed to youtoday.---Nancy
Dec. 5 2008
Nancy-I've been doing a lot of research on what I need to get a work permit. There are many different kinds and right now I'm trying to figure out if I need a Short Term/Temporary Work Permit or a Working Holiday Permit. Either way, I do need the job offer letter and I found this information about what content is needed:
What should be contained in the job offer?
The job offer should contain the details of the position being offered, including: the title of the position being sought in Canada; the responsibilities associated with that position; remuneration for employment; the duration of the position; and the location of employment. Depending on the specific category of the work permit application, additional details or supporting documentation may have to be included. If I get the regular Short Term Work Permit I might need a Labor Market Opinion although I may fall under exceptions from NAFTA. I am currently having my situation assessed so I can figure out what the correct paper work to fill out is. I've tried to contact Lorie Manely several times but haven't heard back from her. Thanks again for all your trouble.
-Briana
I'm trying to get you some clarification on what is required/needed from Immigration Canada to come here for an internship in January. I'll send you a note as soon as I have more information.
cheers,
Lorie
The job offer should contain the details of the position being offered, including: the title of the position being sought in Canada; the responsibilities associated with that position; remuneration for employment; the duration of the position; and the location of employment. Depending on the specific category of the work permit application, additional details or supporting documentation may have to be included. If I get the regular Short Term Work Permit I might need a Labor Market Opinion although I may fall under exceptions from NAFTA. I am currently having my situation assessed so I can figure out what the correct paper work to fill out is. I've tried to contact Lorie Manely several times but haven't heard back from her. Thanks again for all your trouble.
-Briana
Dec. 8, 2008
Hi Briana,I'm trying to get you some clarification on what is required/needed from Immigration Canada to come here for an internship in January. I'll send you a note as soon as I have more information.
cheers,
Lorie
Dec. 8. 2008
Hi Lorie. Based on what Briana wrote, the letter I drafted answers her questions (pay: nothing. Job: intern. Location, duration, all answered through letter and letterhead. Any other thoughts let me know. This may be more trouble for her than it's worth. Please drop her an email as she says she's been trying to ask you questions but not connecting. Thanks----Nancy Dec. 9, 2008
Hi Briana,You've indicated below that you are having your situaiton assessed. Please let us know what the recommendation is that you receive.
thanks,
Lorie
Dec. 9, 2008
Lorie-I got the results back from my assessment and they recommended that I just fill out the normal Work Permit papers. This requires you to get an LMO (Labor Market Opinion). Unfortunately, it appears that I don't qualify for concurrent processing so I can't fill out the permit application until I get a Positive Labor Market opinion back. From what I understand the LMO is the responsibility of the employer. I don't know if you have ever dealt with getting an LMO before and if so do you know how long it takes to get a decision? I'm starting to wonder if it realistic for me to be able to get this permit before Jan. 5. If necessary would I still be able to start while the permit is being processed, or just putting this out there, since I am not being paid if my status could be changed from an intern to a visiting or "shadowing" student that does
not require work papers. Thanks for any help or advice you can give.
-Briana Higgins
Dec. 9, 2008
Hey Nancy-I officially need to fill out papers for a regular working permit. This requires an LMO (Labor Market Opinion) that I believe the employer must obtain. I sent an email to Lorie about all of this. I'm not sure how long all of the paper work will take and if necessary would I be able to start before it comes through? Also, I'm just putting this out there, is there anyway for me to come to Ogilvy as a "shadowing"or observing student rather than an unpaid intern?
-Briana
Dec. 9, 2008
Yes you can call it shadowing. But no, you can't cross the border without your papers. It's ok with us if you do the internship later if it's ok with school. Soundslike this won't get processed in time. Sorry it's never simple to deal with immigration. You can see why we rarely have Americans come up.---N Dec. 9, 2008
Nancy-I am going to the consulate in New York on Monday. A classmate of mine is in a similar situation with Brazil and he went to their consulate and they actually processed his paper work that day. I am still going to try to see if I can get this to work out, but I will need that letter from you on a letterhead, maybe you can send a scanned version that I can print out to speed up the process.
Thanks.
-Briana
-Briana
Dec. 9, 2008
Be sure to tell me the exact changes you want to be made to what I sent so it's lined up with what you learned. Then we'll fire it off. Hope all this trouble is worth it for you!---N Dec. 9, 2008
Nancy-The original letter seems pretty good but you might be able to include a few more details about my responsibilities. Assuming it is on a letterhead like you said then the location is taken care of. I'm not sure whether it will help or hurt the situation with the LMO if you mention that the position is being created specifically for me because you need to prove that the position cannot be filled by a Canadian worker. It's definitely worth it for me if it pulls through. :)
-Briana
Dec. 9, 2008
Considering it isn't a "position", I don't know why we'd have to prove we couldn't fill it with a Canadian. We'll do our best.---N Dec. 10, 2008
I think I may have found a solution. The SWAP Program gives me a work permit valid for 6 months at any job anywhere in Canada and only takes one week to process.Dec. 10, 2009
Hi Briana,Do you need anything else from us, aside from the letter that Nancy provided, in order to apply for this? And where exactly will you apply for it (ie at the Consulate or locally)?
Lorie
Dec. 18, 2009
I received my Working Visa in the mail today so I am all set to go. They will handme all of the other official documents at Customs when I arrive in Canada. I have a
flight booked for Jan. 3rd. I am so glad that everything finally got worked out. Are
there any other particular things that need to be discussed before I get there? Until
I hear from you, Happy Holidays!
-Briana
Dec. 18, 2008
Way to go. We'll see you Jan. 5. It will be fun. ---Nancy Dec. 18, 2008
Good news. Can you please scan me a copy of what you received - or fax it to me at 416-363-5943? We'll need to provide you with an internship agreement, which we'll send shortly. If you can sign one copy and bring it with you when you arrive, that would be great.
cheers,
Lorie
Hi Briana,
cheers,
Lorie
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